fluent用LES算水翼边界层选择中心差分引起的震荡如何消除
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- is it time-averaged U predicted by LES?
- What is the maxima? the Umax in this line or in the computational domain?
Your results look quite good. Is it predicted by linear scheme? How about the other schemes, e.g., limited schemes?
I am runing LES simulation, but it is very slow. I try to limit Co under 0.6. Since the global Umax is around 10 m/s, it indicates
Courant Number mean: 0.00518159 max: 0.59921 deltaT = 2.67779e-06 Time = 0.0168822 GAMG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.0474207, Final residual = 0.00156874, No Iterations 2 time step continuity errors : sum local = 3.90116e-10, global = -6.12223e-14, cumulative = 5.73243e-11 DICPCG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.0105353, Final residual = 9.99036e-07, No Iterations 608 time step continuity errors : sum local = 2.48515e-13, global = -3.59741e-15, cumulative = 5.73207e-11 ExecutionTime = 401.48 s ClockTime = 421 s fieldMinMax minMaxp write: min/max(mag(U)) = 0 10.5464 Courant Number mean: 0.0051816 max: 0.601813 deltaT = 2.61829e-06 Time = 0.0168848 GAMG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.0479045, Final residual = 0.00156265, No Iterations 2 time step continuity errors : sum local = 3.72593e-10, global = 2.37179e-14, cumulative = 5.73444e-11 DICPCG: Solving for p, Initial residual = 0.0102726, Final residual = 9.97099e-07, No Iterations 152 time step continuity errors : sum local = 2.38352e-13, global = 2.12724e-14, cumulative = 5.73657e-11 ExecutionTime = 402.54 s ClockTime = 423 s -
I did a rough calculation, my time step is 3.3e-6, Co = 0.6, my server takes 2 s to calculate one time step. If I want to calculate 0.5 s, it takes me
Another point we need to discuss is that, if Umax is 11 m/s, to ensure Co < 1, you should use similar time step like mine.
试了从1e-5到5e-5
No matter 1e-5 or 5e-5, the Co is larger than 1. Unless time step is smaller than 5e-6, Co is smaller than 1.
Meanwhile, I heard that commercial software can employ much larger Co number. Since the code is not public to the users, I dont understand why.
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@李东岳 谢谢李老师的说明，我这边只试了中心差分Co<1的情况，确定是有震荡的，其他格式结果我还可以再减小时间步长测试下变化，您可以在确保稳定计算的情况增大下时间步长，简单看下foam的中心差分格式结果，有没有类似的不光滑速度等值面，或者破碎的震荡涡，不需要算那么长时间统计平均速度。有改善的话，我就全力研究争取用Openfoam计算。如果太麻烦的话就算啦，还是十分感谢李老师！
关于库朗数可以大于1的原因，我也不甚清楚，看有篇文献说测试平均库朗数到5还能保证计算结果，可能让我没有重视用小时间步计算。 -
Yes. My OpenFOAM results show that oscillation occurs if linear scheme is used. Although this can be explained by theory, you know that. You can try other schemes like
superbeewhich is quite sharp to verify if it predicts better results.Now, I terminate my calculation.
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@李东岳 非常感谢李老师！如果方便的话，您可以把Openfoam的文件打包发给我吗，这个文件中转网站速度还行 https://cowtransfer.com/ 我看能不能改改差分格式，不方便也没关系，我这边摸索得比较慢，目前只能跑跑教程算例啥的。
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Below is the plot predicted by steadyState solver
simpleFoam. 10 mins is enough if you have 60/80 cores. You can see that it can be improved. I am not sure if LES can predict better results. Here is the test case, feel free to adjust the settings to see if you can obtain better results. Please also keep me updated. This is an excellent test case to investigate.
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@李东岳 十分感谢李老师！对OPENfoam不太熟，抱歉耽误了这么长时间回复您，现在使用了三种差分格式 1. filteredlinear 过滤系数取0.5 2. filteredlinear 过滤系数取1 3. LUST格式，25%迎风+75%中心
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速度场wiggle
可以看到中心差分随着过滤强度从0.5-1，耗散性会变大，导致靠近边壁的涡结构被抹平，逐渐向迎风格式的结果过渡，但是都不能解决震荡问题，（过滤掉了一些高频的震荡（碎涡），但是速度场的wiggle依然存在）。LUST格式下没有震荡，虽然只有25%的迎风，但仍然会造成边界层计算不准确，速度梯度不对，结果和二阶迎风类似。目前我认为应该是这个高雷诺数问题（5e5）本身无法用千万量级的网格算边界层，网格雷诺数太高，(我看有人说cell Re <2才能稳定)，中心差分耗散太小,导致震荡难以消除。现在准备暂时放弃边界层定量研究了。。。
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@cccrrryyy 老师您好，用的WALE模型，我看近些年基本用这个的比较多
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您好，我也用过LES做过边界层，请问这么高的
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